On 2006-01-17, Brand Robins wrote:
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Mark, I've done to the pain too. A couple times it worked well, because everyone in the group was adult enough to both tap out and to accept a tap out without taking it as a statement of personal worth. The other time... Ug. I'm reminded of things others said on anyway about grappling and full contact sparring contests. At a dojo or in a standing group of people who actually know what is what, its pretty damn uncommon for anyone to mock someone for tapping out. OTOH, in the world of backyard wrestling and teenagers playing dominance games and pretending its sparring, mocking someone for tapping out (or feeling belittled because you tapped out) is fairly common. The too the pain game that went so wrong was played by adults who claimed they were all there to make a story together. By the end of the game it was obvious that wasn't the full story. Oh, they wanted the story, but they also wanted to mentally t-bag each other and play the social dominance games of teenagers backyard wrestling and then mocking the little kid for tapping. Given the discussion in the "slicing up the RPG pie" thread, about how hurting people's characters can hurt the player in many kinds of RP, and the constant rhetoric of "IC vs OOC" in those same circles, I have to wonder how much of it is set up deliberatly to allow for cruelty -- to keep people from tapping out so that you can keep twisting their arm up and back. |
Some maybe useful links: Complete Index of Entries Search for a Post or Comment Search the Forge Forums This makes... JBR go "Seen that online" There's a few folks who set things up exactly to this purpose online (and a few sadomasochistic hangers-on). It's difficult to really imagine until you see it in its full operation (large parts are obscured to lure in 'guests'). |